Battle of the Aegis(event idea)

[CAPT Huckabee]

This is my proposed idea for a PvP event.  Interested in knowing who would be interested in this.  As stated, I want this to be a battle based on teamwork and bare bone skill.  It won't involve any builds, so as more casual players can be on the same playing field.  This isn't about awarding who has the most time to dedicate to improving builds, it's more about fun and simple gunning. Restricted it to Federation ships and weapon systems due to this being a Federation fleet and it being an RP event as well.  Therefore no visuals from gear and encourage people not to run crazy patterns on their ships.  I also think this would set up something for a good video for Mercer of Shack to record.

One thing I didn't add, and I'm not sure how to go about it, is looking at somehow restricting ships.  I don't want this to turn into everyone bringing in a dreadnought/battle cruiser.  I thought about restricting players to their branch class of ships( i.e. Tactical guys in escorts, Science in science ships, and Engineers in cruisers).  However the fleet is very Tactical heavy and would limit that to being almost an escort battle. 

Thoughts on that are either A.) Players using their Fleet RP ship, making it even more of an RP event or B.) Allowing Tactical to pick anything with a LCDR Tactical Boff slot, excluding universal slots (even though it won't be in use).

Also, opened it to Mk XIV gear.  I'm kinda iffy on this, because it still awards those who can dedicated the time and resources to gain an edge.  Because if you can get that Mk of gear, you should be able to afford Mk XII gear for the event.  Mk XII ain't expensive and modifiers wouldn't play a huge role, so players should be able to afford some.  But I have thought about going up to Mk XIII, because it's not that extensive of an upgrade and I think most of us fit in this bracket.  So I want thoughts on this as well.  Leaning toward limiting it to Mk XII - Mk XIII.

It will be ensured that neither team is stacked with talent.  Everyone knows who the top players are.  It will probably be a turn based picking system with Captains being PvPers who know fleet members playing skills.  That should ensure even picking and even skill across the teams

Thoughts on this?  Not really looking for thoughts on rule changes outside what I proposed, opening up to other factions, and weapon choices.  I added a poll, so if enough Yes then I will begin to iron out final rules and nail down a date with Command.

[VADM pRett]

I understand your intent, Huck, and, to a certain extent, your frustration(s).

If you're going to make this an RP/PvP event, then come up with the RP framework. Make people interested in the event enough to try out your ruleset. If you want an example of one of the most fun events this Fleet ever did, look up the RP/PvP event we did between the UFP and KDF that was run by CDR Hunter (see http://fleet7.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5934699&gid=84053 as a reference).

 

I'd allow BOff abilities, but think removing Traits gained from Reputation would be good.

 

Proton torpedoes? Are we allowing Star Wars gear now?

 

I thought about restricting players to their branch class of ships( i.e. Tactical guys in escorts, Science in science ships, and Engineers in cruisers).  However the fleet is very Tactical heavy and would limit that to being almost an escort battle.

 

We have quite a few folks that play more than one class, and some folks that don't use the class ship for that class. I don't think restricting that is a good idea.

[CAPT Huckabee]

Ooops.....Photon, bad typo there. 

This is a stand alone event I felt like creating, that is my only intent.  It is nothing to replace the wargames.  They have their place and people love them.

That's why my other idea is to limit people to their RP ship they use for the fleet.  With that, it wouldn't matter if people had other classes they play.  It would mean them playing as their primary in the fleet and using the ship they use for the registry.

I'm standing by no abilities.  That's the whole purpose of this.  It's not an event for those with Aux 2 Batt or Power Drain builds to dominate over those that have basic builds.  Easiest way to avoid that is not use abilities at all.  It wouldn't be right to ban one or 2 builds and not the rest.  It would take literally no effort to strip a ship down of bridge officers and pack with Mk XII or XIII weapons/gear and jump into battle.  It's a friendly take on PvP that allows people who have RL getting in the way of making a competitive PvP build to be just as competitive. 

It's a basic idea, so more RP elements could be added.  Right now just the fact the ships will look RP, people will possibly be in their Fleet RP ship, and will use canon weapons are the RP elements.  But unless the general basic idea catches with members, more thought will be placed into after that.  After all, I've been in the RL boat preventing game/fleet time.

So for those not interested, no big deal.  Just means it won't happen.

 

[VADM Wulfric Richter CoS]

Sound like fun, and I'll likely learn something to boot! So sign me up! I'm always willing to die gloriously for the fleet!  lol

[Wupteedo]

Always willing to try something new.  Will have to dust-off the old "Okie Boat" and remember how to play a Tactical Officer (Smaug).

Thank you, Capt Huck for putting this together. 

This would be an excellent training exercise for the upcoming "Top Gun" Tournament in August. 

Qapla'

 

[Anton Mercer]

Not sure if any fleeties are, but what if a member's RP ship IS NOT there class specific? Also what about Fed-allied Roms or fleeties who don't have a Fed character? I know there are a few..

[CAPT Huckabee]

Anton Mercer wrote:

Not sure if any fleeties are, but what if a member's RP ship IS NOT there class specific? Also what about Fed-allied Roms or fleeties who don't have a Fed character? I know there are a few..

 RP ship not being class specific is fine.  That's why I said have players possible use it for the event.  Most of us are Tactical in the fleet and using RP ship would break it up from being a bunch of escorts and ensure everyone is not hopping into dreads/heavy cruisers.  RP wise, the fleet is decently diverse in what it flies.  A lot of the same classes, but a decent mix of science, cruisers, and escorts. 

Right now I only have one on the Registry as a Romulan.  If the fleet allows someone to just have a Romulan as a primary, then no problem with it if they have no Federation character and entered the fleet that way.   I'm not sure how that's handle on apps.  Good point though, so thanks Mercer.  It will be an event for primary characters, not alts.  That's the true intent leaning toward to get more of an RP side and keep it diverse.

 

[Admiral Van Wormer]

I like the overall idea. Test the captains, not their toys!

[Wupteedo]

Admiral Van Wormer wrote:

I like the overall idea. Test the captains, not their toys!

 

+1; well stated, Sir.

[CAPT Huckabee]

Rules:

-Primary Fleet Federation Character, no Alts (If you are listed as a Romulan Main per Admin, you are permitted with that character. Encouraged to run Federation non the less)

-Primary Fleet Role-play ship per registry/Admin (If not listed, use your main ship or with a ship that has your specific branch LCDR Bridge Officer slot.)

-2 teams, 30 kill count, best 2 of 3 rounds (Can be adjusted)

-No Special Consoles. (i.e. Anti-matter spread, Plasmonic Leech, etc.)

-Role-play Mk XII-XIII weapons only (Feds: Phasers(cannons on ships will visible hard points only), Quantums, Photons.  If any, Romulans: Plasma weapons)

- No Bridge Officer Abilites, No Reputation Traits, No Ship Traits.

-Branch Abilites allowed (i.e. Fire on my Mark, Miracle Worker, Attack Pattern Alpha, etc.)

-No Fleet Support, No Pets (i.e. Nimbus Pirates)

-If anyone has a carrier, Faction hanger only. (i.e. Fed=Peregrines)

-Unlimited Ship Gear (Not cheap to pick up XII-XIII to replace Mk XIV like it is for weapons).

-Team Captains: PvP "experts", Fleet Command/"experts" are to ensure even teams of skill at all means if possible.

Those are the rules I would set the event as.  I'm going to be placing myself on reserves due to the fact work and RL prevents me from making events and to iron out some lingering frustrations, so if the fleet command want to use this event, you are more then welcome.  I have placed the Aegis Award ribbon in Role-play gallery if it is used.  Hopefully if it is used, it can be arranged for a weekend when I'm actually off.

 

 

[VADM pRett]

Huckabee40 wrote:

Rules: -Role-play Mk XII-XIII weapons only (Feds: Phasers(cannons on ships will visible hard points only), Quantums, Photons.  If any, Romulans: Plasma weapons)

 Because I figure someone will ask, does that include reputation versions of those weapons, such as the Counter-command variant Phasers? Also, when you say "no pets," what about the wing cannons on the Andorian Escorts - do those count?